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More sanitary piping....
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:01 am
by Rick_H
We had some floor work done and it moved a scale tank out of its original position so I had to make all new piping to match the new location. Also took this time to get rid of the regular 316 threaded pipe that use to make up the manifold.
Matching the existing frame work and drops is always interesting...lol I also made some framing out of 2" x 1" to properly support the new manifold and scale display etc...
I'm the only one who does this work, I don't think my coworkers have any idea how much work or how much time this takes. They just think I throw this stuff together.... Use to pay a contractor $100/hr for it.
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:00 pm
by weldin mike 27
Bosses can also be like that. You'll be done soon right ??
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:39 pm
by Otto Nobedder
weldin mike 27 wrote:Bosses can also be like that. You'll be done soon right ??
I know that type, but if Rick_H has the same bosses that paid $100/hr (with a minimum hours charge, no doubt), he probably doesn't have that issue.
I do relate to his "
" about the other hands not recognizing the planning, fitting, preparation, and skill involved. I'm allotted much more time (and often on T&M) for my process-pipe, high-vacuum, and ASME welds than they're allowed for simple non-code pipe. Several co-workers "may" be under the impression I have it easy.
Granted, I never seem to be in a hurry, but that's intentional. No one yells at the dentist to hurry his work and get to the x-ray, right?
Steve S
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:36 pm
by Stirmind
"Rick_H" Matching the existing frame work and drops is always interesting...lol
Ain't that always the case...I would get my hack'n'tack foreman's eyes bulging out when I unbolted anything that looked to have a bind on it, no matter how minor it looked. After having numerous drops, manifolds and even pup pieces jump out at me, I learned never to trust any work that wasn't my own, or at least a buddy of mine from the same job and we were just swapping something new out.
I just loved it when the last hand to assemble the section used bull pins to get a flange bolted up...good times.
Of course it was rare that I worked with anything under 6" sch. 40, but even a 1/2" line is enough to tear a finger off if there is the chance for it to bite you.
BTW, Very nice looking work, thanks for sharing...Aloha, Chuck
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:13 pm
by Rick_H
You guys will love this...so one of my counterparts asked me to shorten the one end up 1" so the electrician didn't have to rebend the conduit for the original electrical drop.
My answer... Are you f*****g kidding? Um NO!
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:14 pm
by Rick_H
Stirmind wrote:"Rick_H" Matching the existing frame work and drops is always interesting...lol
Ain't that always the case...I would get my hack'n'tack foreman's eyes bulging out when I unbolted anything that looked to have a bind on it, no matter how minor it looked. After having numerous drops, manifolds and even pup pieces jump out at me, I learned never to trust any work that wasn't my own, or at least a buddy of mine from the same job and we were just swapping something new out.
I just loved it when the last hand to assemble the section used bull pins to get a flange bolted up...good times.
Of course it was rare that I worked with anything under 6" sch. 40, but even a 1/2" line is enough to tear a finger off if there is the chance for it to bite you.
BTW, Very nice looking work, thanks for sharing...Aloha, Chuck
Yeah I've been told I'm too anal, or you just like to make that stuff when I remake pipes that have been tweeked. A trip clover connection is pretty forgiving but I hate pulling on pipes and fighting a clamp.
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:32 pm
by Wes917
Stirmind wrote:"Rick_H" Matching the existing frame work and drops is always interesting...lol
Ain't that always the case...I would get my hack'n'tack foreman's eyes bulging out when I unbolted anything that looked to have a bind on it, no matter how minor it looked. After having numerous drops, manifolds and even pup pieces jump out at me, I learned never to trust any work that wasn't my own, or at least a buddy of mine from the same job and we were just swapping something new out.
I just loved it when the last hand to assemble the section used bull pins to get a flange bolted up...good times.
Of course it was rare that I worked with anything under 6" sch. 40, but even a 1/2" line is enough to tear a finger off if there is the chance for it to bite you.
BTW, Very nice looking work, thanks for sharing...Aloha, Chuck
I learned this lesson early on as well, only after unbolting the piece and smacking me in the hand. Got lucky nothing got broke a s I didn't go flying off the ladder. Was a good lesson, never assume the guy before you gave a ish about those that work on it later.
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:08 pm
by Stirmind
Wes917 wrote: I learned this lesson early on as well, only after unbolting the piece and smacking me in the hand. Got lucky nothing got broke a s I didn't go flying off the ladder. Was a good lesson, never assume the guy before you gave a ish about those that work on it later.
Yup, I actually prided myself in even just using never-seize. I even brought my own after someone kept taking it home(don't some folks take the strangest things home? I'd never risk my job over a $5 dollar jar of goop!). It's tough enough to get the nuts loose on painted up bolts, but you add the rust we often combated on the water front in Hawaii, and you could waste half an hour on one Grade 8 stud because obviously we couldn't use a torch or grinder to take off anything fuel related...
I may have wasted a few rags, and turned a few good shirts into rags, but it still helps me sleep at night
BTW, I'm also glad you didn't get wounded learning that one. You're just never the same after you see a guy lose a finger, and I'll never forget how loud that scream was...[shudder]
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:34 pm
by weldin mike 27
What are we talking about here? A pipe springing back when it is cut or unbolted?
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:57 pm
by Otto Nobedder
weldin mike 27 wrote:What are we talking about here? A pipe springing back when it is cut or unbolted?
Yep. It happens.
I was blessed Thursday to disassemble a safety manifold I built five years ago. I took the extra time to study the numbers on the drawing, and found errors... The hold-off for the rupture disks and safeties were fit for Grafoil gaskets, but flexitallic spiral-wound were called out. This required a 1/8" adjustment.
When I pulled the rupture disks, they "just" slid out, as they should for their compressed thickness. I actually impressed myself for the extra effort I put in. NOTHING moved when I took it apart.
OCD can pay off.
Steve S
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:05 pm
by weldin mike 27
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:33 pm
by Wes917
Geez how'd they think that was going to end?
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:35 pm
by weldin mike 27
They held the other end down with an excavator, why not this guys end.
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:53 am
by Rick_H
Wow...dude was lucky.
Here's a few more pics from yesterday, ran about another 60ft of pipe.
Re: More sanitary piping....
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:32 am
by Stirmind
Wes917 wrote:
Geez how'd they think that was going to end?
LMAO!!! It's funny now, but I can recall having to do stupid shit...not that bad, but stupid none the less, just to keep my job. I Worked for a South African "treasure hunter" that wanted a bigger crane welded to his "research" vessel and when I took it off another vessel, they were lifting the boat out of the water they had so much tension on the crane!
Yanked it clear of me as I knew where to stand (and jump over the side if it swung), but I was just glad it didn't tip the crane on it's ass as I'm sure that jackass would have found a way to make it my fault, even though no one would listen to me.
Funny thing is the crane was so heavy it was a factor in the sinking of it 2 miles from Christmas island...what a nightmare that rekindled just now, thanks!