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Anyway, it was nice to see two large packages in my delivery box both yesterday (plasma) and today (TIG). Today's offering: So I loaded it up into the cart and took it to the workshop:
It seems to run both, and I'm no MMA pro by any means. I was looking for some Lincoln 5P+ 6010, but my LWS only had 5P, so I passed. I hear 5P+ is the shizzle for 6010.av8or1 wrote:The problem is that I don't think that the 225X will run a 6010. I don't have any 6011s either.
Funny enough I almost didn't buy the welder because I didn't think it would run 6010/6011, but it does. Mike told me it will run them all depending on how experienced you are, and in fact told me he would refund me 100% of my purchase and pay for the shipping back if I was unhappy. That pushed me over the edge.av8or1 wrote:I say that I don't think it will because there was no mention of an E6010 in the manual nor from what I read online. Thus it seems a bit unlikely. 'Might be interesting to see how it does anyway ...
I'm pretty sure you'll like that machine a lot. I'm totally happy with mine, I'm sure you'll be with yours also.av8or1 wrote:I'll keep y'all posted. Just wanted to share the news. It was exciting to see that TIG welder show up. After years of MIG and stick, I've wanted to try TIG and now that opportunity has arrived. Way cool!
Yep, mine too!DavidR8 wrote:Welcome to the club.
Looks like Primeweld changed their boxes. Mine was all glossy black with yellow lettering.
Wait...who is Mike exactly? The owner of PrimeWeld or a rep or ... ? Does he have the authority to issue refunds there? I haven't contacted PrimeWeld directly, but I would like to learn more about the company and the folk who work there.TraditionalToolworks wrote:Funny enough I almost didn't buy the welder because I didn't think it would run 6010/6011, but it does. Mike told me it will run them all depending on how experienced you are, and in fact told me he would refund me 100% of my purchase and pay for the shipping back if I was unhappy. That pushed me over the edge.
I believe Mike is the owner and Dustin works for him, but I could be wrong. Mike is the owner.av8or1 wrote:Wait...who is Mike exactly? The owner of PrimeWeld or a rep or ... ? Does he have the authority to issue refunds there? I haven't contacted PrimeWeld directly, but I would like to learn more about the company and the folk who work there.
I have only run DCEP on MMA. That's all I do, I don't have any AC rods, err, I take that back...the 6011 will run on AC, but I have never done that on any of my machines. I understand your skepticism, but it runs them. Please report back after you actually try it, not just from reading information online. The machine is not purported to even run any rod other than 6013 in the manual. I wouldn't expect them to refund a machine for that reason unless they told you prior to buying it, but dollars to donuts they would because that's the type of company they are and they want to make sure the customer is happy. They are not like Everlast, out to get your money and the deal is done. But they don't seem to have the same widespread issues as Everlast either. Maybe it's karma!av8or1 wrote:Well I'm not convinced that it'll run a 6010 yet, as that is a DCEP rod only, but I will approach it with an open mind. So we'll see. But dangit Alan! I need to finish the plasma table first, don't get me distracted!![]()
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Then by all means please report when you try it. I was running 1/8" rod at 92 amps. I picked that based on another user I know with a Primeweld in Wisconsin that ran both 6010 and 7018 on it before I did. I was questioned here if the rod I was running was even 6010 as my beads didn't look as the person thought they should. Claiming someone is selling counterfeit rod is really a stretch though, even they admitted it after thinking about it. Would love your opinion.av8or1 wrote:Between the gantry and other projects I've run enough 6010 to know how it should weld.
I didn't want to punt on that, cause I have plenty of rod and really like 7018, just that 6010/6011 is more tolerant to rust/paint/dirt than 7018, and that's the entire reason to use it.av8or1 wrote:I took a punt on the 5P because it was all the supply store had on-hand at the time and I needed to finish some work on the gantry.
I beg your pardon? I have never posted a YouTube video on the Primeweld, maybe you watched another one I linked to. I have no videos on welding on YT, the only thing I have is pictures of my property and my old '46 Chevy Pickup mostly. You can see my channel at the same name I use here, or a full view of my property at "Konocti's Wigwam", but sorry, no welding video.av8or1 wrote:Yeah I watched your YouTube video as well. I sure as hell hope that you've sourced a welding jacket since then and are using a respirator.
Thank you, the mail center has paid for itself and then some via the convenience it provides.BugHunter wrote:Love the mailbox! I want one of them.![]()
You're going to need that Argon bottle if you expect to TIG weld your welder cart.
Ah ok, thank you for the information. If I ever need to contact them I'll have a name to refer to when I do. Hopefully I'll never have the need.TraditionalToolworks wrote:I believe Mike is the owner and Dustin works for him, but I could be wrong. Mike is the owner.
Yeah the 6011 is used on AC most of the time, since it'll do AC and since there are so many of those tombstone style buzz-boxes out there. I might have come across the wrong/unintended way a bit here ... I wouldn't classify me as skeptical so much as "it does that? Really?" type of disposition. I'm not a professional welder either and don't pretend that I am. All I'm saying is that I've laid down enough of the 5P and 5P+ to know what they should sound, feel and look like in the end. And that's all. Nothing boastful therein, FWIW.TraditionalToolworks wrote:I have only run DCEP on MMA. That's all I do, I don't have any AC rods, err, I take that back...the 6011 will run on AC, but I have never done that on any of my machines. I understand your skepticism, but it runs them. Please report back after you actually try it, not just from reading information online. The machine is not purported to even run any rod other than 6013 in the manual. I wouldn't expect them to refund a machine for that reason unless they told you prior to buying it, but dollars to donuts they would because that's the type of company they are and they want to make sure the customer is happy. They are not like Everlast, out to get your money and the deal is done. But they don't seem to have the same widespread issues as Everlast either. Maybe it's karma!
Yeah that's correct. The 6010 is a more violent, deeper (typically) penetrating rod than the 7018, which is why I use it for the root and hot passes on anything that I consider structural. During my testing prior to welding the gantry, I found that the 6010 lived up to that reputation. I noticed that it did indeed have better penetration and once I learned its "happy noise" I attempted to replicate that each-n-every time I used it. It's happiest when it is the most violent. And I like that in a structural context. The 7018 when done right sounds like the mild sizzle of a fireplace on a winter's night. Just quite different. It too has excellent penetration, just not quite as good as the 6010. I realize that this is a bit of a blanket statement, however I would assert that the general notion holds true.TraditionalToolworks wrote:I didn't want to punt on that, cause I have plenty of rod and really like 7018, just that 6010/6011 is more tolerant to rust/paint/dirt than 7018, and that's the entire reason to use it.
Holy hell, I had you confused with another guy who posted a YouTube video after purchasing a 225X right about the same time that you appear to have and who also works in a garage with limited space. So I put 2-n-2 together and came up with 3. Apologies.TraditionalToolworks wrote:I beg your pardon? I have never posted a YouTube video on the Primeweld, maybe you watched another one I linked to. I have no videos on welding on YT, the only thing I have is pictures of my property and my old '46 Chevy Pickup mostly. You can see my channel at the same name I use here, or a full view of my property at "Konocti's Wigwam", but sorry, no welding video.
How should I put this nicely...I don't like people doing something the first time and showing everyone how to do it on YT, and that's exactly what he does. If he learned and already knew how to do something, that's different, but in his case he's always doing something the first time. I have commented on his videos in the past to offer some advice, but don't watch them as there's not much for me to learn from him as he's learning. I have better use of my time, even if it's padding beads.av8or1 wrote:Alright Alan, I just *had* to track it down to see where I zigged when I should have zagged. The guy's name is actually Bruce, so yeah, not you.lol He ran a few beads in SMAW mode too. Anyway just for funzzies, here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scHEf0lphb8&t=1048s
Perhaps shoulda asked "are you the guy in that unboxing video?" prior to concluding that the two guys were one-n-the-same. lol
No worries...but just to say, that guy has so much space, if I had that much space I'd be looking for machines to fill it up.av8or1 wrote:Holy hell, I had you confused with another guy who posted a YouTube video after purchasing a 225X right about the same time that you appear to have and who also works in a garage with limited space. So I put 2-n-2 together and came up with 3. Apologies.
Hmmm...I may have to try that myself, but have just always used DCEP for all the stick rod I've run.cj737 wrote:Av8tor - you might try some 6013 on DCEN. Your machine will run those quite nicely, and the beads will provide a very nice finish appearance. Set your machine to Stick, DC, then swap your leads. I bet you ditch the 6010 afterwards. Great penetration, easy restarts, light flux.
Thank you! Well the plasma did come in a black box with yellow lettering. I was expecting the same with the 225X but that wasn't the case...DavidR8 wrote:Welcome to the club.
Looks like Primeweld changed their boxes. Mine was all glossy black with yellow lettering.
And they give you a pig tail with a 5-15 plug on it, that's a 15 amp plug?av8or1 wrote:So this is interesting:specifications 2.jpgOn 110V, the 225X maxes out at 120A but can draw a max input current of 46.3A when in SMAW mode.
I think it's not just about how much amperage it draws, my green weenie draws 28 amps, and gives me 200 amps TIG or 160 amps MMA. So I theorize that the Primeweld can get 160 amps of MMA on 30 amps. (240v)av8or1 wrote:The green box I have maxes out at 200A, but can only run on 220/240V. Duty cycle is a bit better also, but it's a green box and it's $1200+ more expensive. Thus the 225X is a bargain by comparison, especially with the level of customer service that the company appears to have.
Yeah, I need to get my cart tacked up. I started to weld the posts which was a mistake, I should have tacked it all up with the top frame and posts to prevent distortion. Doesn't look too bad, I measured things today, but I need to get the posts and frame tacked up before welding more on it. Easy to get distracted. (it did give me some time to think about it thoughav8or1 wrote:Anyway FWIW. I may have an opportunity to run a few beads with the 225X tomorrow, but TBD. I want to remain focused on the plasma table until that project is finished. Still lots of little stuff to do on that one...
Yes, they kind of do, but it doesn't tell you exactly what 34 amps is for tig on 240v, and even despite that they tell you to use a 50 amp circuit. That actually makes sense as it can use up to 46.3 amps for MMA.av8or1 wrote:Oh and the numbers on the label on the back of the 225X appear to match those in the manual, at least from a quick glance.
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