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Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:24 pm
by jcsmith
Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA
Experience Required: 6 Months - 1 Year
Pay: $14.00 to $18.00
http://skilledjobsdirect.com/Metric/clJ ... 2014-01-31

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:07 am
by GG47
jcsmith wrote:Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA
Experience Required: 6 Months - 1 Year
Pay: $14.00 to $18.00
http://skilledjobsdirect.com/Metric/clJ ... 2014-01-31
Wait... you mean to tell me I can move across country.. Leave my family and work for $14 an hour inhaling caustic fumes and working like a dog for $14 an hour? No way !! That's like a whole $1.50 more than Taco Bell 3 mins from my house that offers a 401k Plan and benefits....

"You will not be considered for this position unless you have 6mos-1yr experience though" !! But if you have at least 6mos of welding like crap, then thats ok, I guess.... What do I know?

Kind enough to post your companies general website to keep it informal and all,,, Thanks! How could you pass this up... Really!

Anyone else feel a breeze? Think we all did.... didn't we......

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:41 am
by Antorcha
Pretty cool. I didn't know they had welders doing the seams on burritos at Taco Bell ! Very informative. :lol:

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:49 am
by weldin mike 27
Hey,

Just out of interest, what is a"good" hourly rate in the US? In Aus anything less than 25 bucks and you'll have trouble getting a tradesman. But we have realtively high costs over here?
Mick

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:27 pm
by AKweldshop
$35 to $50 is a good rate for a welder fabricator, that in AK though....
Up on the North slope their making big bucks :shock:
I'm gonna be looking into a job up though.
They are gonna be hiring hundreds of welders. :shock:
I'll look around at most of the welding shops and find out the hourly rate, mind you, this is another continent. ;)

~John

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:13 pm
by Wes917
Good wage is determined mainly by cost of living in the area. A good wage in one area could be terrible in another

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:39 pm
by Otto Nobedder
GG47 wrote:
jcsmith wrote:Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA
Experience Required: 6 Months - 1 Year
Pay: $14.00 to $18.00
http://skilledjobsdirect.com/Metric/clJ ... 2014-01-31
Wait... you mean to tell me I can move across country.. Leave my family and work for $14 an hour inhaling caustic fumes and working like a dog for $14 an hour? No way !! That's like a whole $1.50 more than Taco Bell 3 mins from my house that offers a 401k Plan and benefits....

"You will not be considered for this position unless you have 6mos-1yr experience though" !! But if you have at least 6mos of welding like crap, then thats ok, I guess.... What do I know?

Kind enough to post your companies general website to keep it informal and all,,, Thanks! How could you pass this up... Really!

Anyone else feel a breeze? Think we all did.... didn't we......
Easy, now--

6 mos to a year is entry-level, and six months in school could count. No one suggested relocation. If you haven't noticed, a good 80% of our membership are newbies and students. If you were local to the area, this would likely be a good first job. Work it for 1-2 years, build experience and a resume', and turn 'n burn all day to hone your skills.

Would I work for that wage? Not if there were another option before welfare. But I'm not a 1st year welder.

Steve S

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:23 pm
by Mongol
Otto Nobedder wrote:Easy, now--

6 mos to a year is entry-level, and six months in school could count. No one suggested relocation. If you haven't noticed, a good 80% of our membership are newbies and students. If you were local to the area, this would likely be a good first job. Work it for 1-2 years, build experience and a resume', and turn 'n burn all day to hone your skills.

Would I work for that wage? Not if there were another option before welfare. But I'm not a 1st year welder.

Steve S
Well put. And $14/hr is $2 more than my starting wage when I began my first job a year ago. Gotta start somewhere.

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:09 pm
by Superiorwelding
GG47 wrote:
jcsmith wrote:Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA
Experience Required: 6 Months - 1 Year
Pay: $14.00 to $18.00
http://skilledjobsdirect.com/Metric/clJ ... 2014-01-31
Wait... you mean to tell me I can move across country.. Leave my family and work for $14 an hour inhaling caustic fumes and working like a dog for $14 an hour? No way !! That's like a whole $1.50 more than Taco Bell 3 mins from my house that offers a 401k Plan and benefits....

"You will not be considered for this position unless you have 6mos-1yr experience though" !! But if you have at least 6mos of welding like crap, then thats ok, I guess.... What do I know?

Kind enough to post your companies general website to keep it informal and all,,, Thanks! How could you pass this up... Really!

Anyone else feel a breeze? Think we all did.... didn't we......
Maybe someone has forgot what is was like first starting out? My first welding job was $10 a hr. as a helper. Is $14 a little low, yes but to someone first starting out that's not bad. $18 a hr with only one year experience...I would say that's pretty good. I wish I was making that on my first job.

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:32 pm
by Otto Nobedder
Thanks, all,

That's why I threw up the "simple rule".

I don't want any recruiters/job posters scared off of here because someone wants to mock the wage. We all started somewhere. My first full-time welding job paid 25 cents above minimum wage, was a GREAT deal of fun (maybe I'll tell that story if the opportunity comes up), and taught me more than any 10 classes I could have taken.

Steve S

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:19 am
by Mongol
Suggestion:

Can you make the "simple rule" post a sticky? Eventually it'll end up getting sent to the island of misfit posts, and I"d wager a guess that this might come up again down the road.

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:18 pm
by Otto Nobedder
Mongol wrote:Suggestion:

Can you make the "simple rule" post a sticky? Eventually it'll end up getting sent to the island of misfit posts, and I"d wager a guess that this might come up again down the road.
That thought had crossed my mind... I looked into my "powers" and haven't found it yet. I'll get with an admin on that if I don't find it. Meanwhile, I'll happily edit it at random to bring it to the top.

That's a "pet peeve" of mine, and peeves make horrible pets. :lol:

Steve S

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:34 pm
by weldin mike 27
Thats very true,


I help run a facebook group on welding and all we hear is we mention wages is "i wouldnt get out of bed for that", or "a good tradie shouldnt wor for less that 50bucks an hour"

Good for them i say, but they need to remember there is a real world out there where a small business cant possibly afford big dollars or competition is so tight that there is no wiggle room.

Mick

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:26 am
by Bulldog2010
I know that's right. We small business owner's can't afford to pay top $$ for welders. I would like to. Cause I know as a welder that its worth it to have the best that u can get. But at the sametime some top welder's don't put the same hart into thar job as some of the low pay welder's because the top pay guys thing that thay can't be replaces or thay just want more money. So thar is good and bad and that's the way it goes.

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:38 am
by weldin mike 27
true that. nothing worse than an arrogant prick who thinks everything is beneath him.

mick

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:47 pm
by Otto Nobedder
weldin mike 27 wrote:true that. nothing worse than an arrogant prick who thinks everything is beneath him.

mick
I thought you said you wouldn't talk about me like that here...
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I never understood people who waste time putting down a wage they won't work for or a job they won't apply for. Why, really, would you bother? The way I respond to a job I don't want is simple. I don't respond to it at all. I'll happily leave it be for the next guy. HE might really need it, and I'm happy for him to have it.

Steve S

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:46 am
by weldin mike 27
Lolz, mate, I know nothing is beneath you.....burn.Sorry.

I agree again, on a face book group im on we have a large "wouldnt get out of bed for under...." crowd. They take great pride in butting in and letting us know they wont work for .....We had one guy bag out 35 buck an hour. I know you can make super dollars in this trade, but in a city shop, home every night....?? Not to mention about 2 kays from the beach.
I wish they would keep their mouths shut. (in fact, I think you would enjoy it when you are in to many beer mode, taking down some big mouths.)

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:35 pm
by Otto Nobedder
My job should pay more, but I don't cry about it. I like the work. I like sleeping in my own bed every night. I like my wife's cooking. I've made much more, but motel rooms, fast food and electric-skillet cuisine, and talking to myself get old after a while.

I think my job will begin to pay better, with the buyout... They can't even find a "department of labor" classification for what I do, and nothing in their own classification system comes close... They have my job classified as "welding inspector".

Also, I got with an admin, and the "simple rule" is now a pinned post, and added to the forum rules page. I asked if I should tone it down a bit, be more subtle... "Nope. I think you nailed it..."

Steve S

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:12 am
by Arizona SA200
I realize this is an older post but feel i should put my two cents in. This posting is a "entry level" job and for that the money isn't bad. The ones that bother me are "minimum 5/10 years experience with tig stick mig flux core sub arc gouging and pay is 12$ an hour" stuff. To me that is an insult to the profession. I understand when people say they wont get out of bed for that wage in that scenario. Realistically speaking every company wants the cheapest labor that the can get but still have the performance they require. Its called profit. So I must say if it is a job requiring an experienced welder then they should be willing to pay experienced welder wages.

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:43 pm
by Otto Nobedder
Arizona SA200 wrote:I realize this is an older post but feel i should put my two cents in. This posting is a "entry level" job and for that the money isn't bad. The ones that bother me are "minimum 5/10 years experience with tig stick mig flux core sub arc gouging and pay is 12$ an hour" stuff. To me that is an insult to the profession. I understand when people say they wont get out of bed for that wage in that scenario. Realistically speaking every company wants the cheapest labor that the can get but still have the performance they require. Its called profit. So I must say if it is a job requiring an experienced welder then they should be willing to pay experienced welder wages.
Yes, that's another "sore spot" for me...

5+ years experience in combo skills calls for a Journeyman wage, and I'll likely delete a $12/hr offer out-of-hand. I won't insult a working man like that, and I won't allow it here.

Steve S

Re: Welder Fabricators Needed ASAP - King George, VA

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:24 pm
by weldin mike 27
Similar to a job offering 25 here in AUS. You can get paid 21 for casual at mc donalds.