Shipping Containers

John Chamorro · Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:42 pm

I'm going to weld some containers together for a friend. What wire would you suggest for the application. I have several wire feeds capable of running pretty much anything and a Ranger 9 for power. Innershield is my weapon of choice but which one?
TIA,
John

dirtmidget33 · Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:47 pm

I welded some lock hoods and different lock assemblies on shipping containers several years ago that where used for commercial fireworks storage 1.3 explosives. I used MIG with ER70S-6

John Chamorro · Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:50 pm

dirtmidget33 wrote:I welded some lock hoods and different lock assemblies on shipping containers several years ago that where used for commercial fireworks storage 1.3 explosives. I used MIG with ER70S-6

I'm welding 6 of them together for a house. MIG won't be practical.

dirtmidget33 · Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:11 pm

I also welded a couple of hoods on with flux core .035 NR211-MP using a Lincoln weld pak 100,

containers where in woods and company only had small generator available and needed it done for ATF inspection in a hurry. I was there picking stuff up and they wanted it done. I wouldn't suggest it with the 110 welder. The hoods where a box made of 1/4 steel that surrounds pad lock, bottom of it is open to access lock. Its an ATF thing

heavy hood welded to thin sheet on the door meets there code. It is there to make it harder to cut lock. Some of those storage areas the ATF approves is a joke

Yeah gas prices might get a little high with 6 of them

but it is possible.

John Chamorro · Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:15 pm

I was thinking 211,,,, Is it compatible with the Core-10? (I'm guessing they are core-10) I don't really have a way to do any destructive testing. With the hundreds of feet of welding, I don't want any issues popping up.

dirtmidget33 · Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:10 pm

hmmm hard to find a good answer I believe there is better stuff for it then 211 though. I was adding stuff on to containers and since yours will be structural for a house suggest not using what I used without further research. Hobart has a pretty decent article I posted link. Sure we have a bridge builder or someone that uses A588 steel that will chime in.

http://www.hobartbrothers.com/news/181/ ... e-Job.html

Looks like Hobart suggests E70C-6M and E71T-1/9 C/M

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/su ... etail.aspx

Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:56 pm

John Chamorro wrote:I was thinking 211,,,, Is it compatible with the Core-10? (I'm guessing they are core-10) I don't really have a way to do any destructive testing. With the hundreds of feet of welding, I don't want any issues popping up.

211 will work fine on CorTen. Is it the best option? I'm not sure... but if the welds will be painted and protected, I don't see how you can go wrong.

Steve S

John Chamorro · Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:12 pm

The container house is going to be a 2 story partially cantilevered upper floor. There will be hundreds of feet of weld. The only reservations I have with the process is that there will be near 200 feet of overhead bevel weld. I'm hoping the 211 will not 'fall out' of the bevel. I'm thinking that maybe .030 and a hot fast weld will help with that. I will be doing most of the welding but the owner will do the down hand stuff. 211 down hand even for a novice welder is pretty easy to run. I DO NOT want to stick weld this thing.

dirtmidget33 · Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:12 pm

One thing I wonder about these houses is how hard are they to cool off. I am sure they build a double wall are something and insulate it but still just seems like it would be an oven. I know the explosive storage ones would some times get 120 to 135 degrees in the midwest. Guys down south said theirs would get even hotter.

Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:22 am

For bulk distance of welding, go for something like 0.045" diam or bigger. .030 is not feasible for bulk deposition of metal.

John Chamorro · Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:44 am

weldin mike 27 wrote:For bulk distance of welding, go for something like 0.045" diam or bigger. .030 is not feasible for bulk deposition of metal.

Agree,,,, but, Welding thin sections of the container with the 045 could be an issue. I guess time will tell.

Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:44 pm

There won't be anything under 1/8 will there?

John Chamorro · Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:45 am

weldin mike 27 wrote:There won't be anything under 1/8 will there?

No but there may be a fair amount of welding the thin butt end of the sides to 1/4 angle at a T joint for the windows and the doors. Maybe for that condition I will set the LN 7 up for gas instead of inner shield and run 035 hard wire. I'm just trying to hand off as much as possible to the owner to do himself. There's a butt load of structural I'll need to do. I don't need a full time field welding job. it's getting too hot and I'm too cranky.

Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:41 am

Fair enough. The main point I'm trying to get at is that 0.045 can be turned down, but .035 will struggle a little more trying to turn it up.

John Chamorro · Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:41 am

weldin mike 27 wrote:Fair enough. The main point I'm trying to get at is that 0.045 can be turned down, but .035 will struggle a little more trying to turn it up.

Sometimes the obvious escapes me. I hadn't looked at it that way. Thanks for the knock on the head.

Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:07 am

No problem mate. Watch the paint on those things, I'm sure it will be nasty.

John Chamorro · Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:11 am

weldin mike 27 wrote:No problem mate. Watch the paint on those things, I'm sure it will be nasty.

I'll set the owner off well ahead with sandblaster and grinder. For this to run smoothly and quickly, I'm cutting no corners.PLUS<<< I'm not breathing any fumes I don't absolutely have to.

Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:45 am

Good to hear.

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