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firefly 130 use for aluminum
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:50 pm
by HenryJ
I have searched but could not see an answer to my question. Instructions show reverse polarity for welding aluminum but could not see any other info. Can I use aluminum wire in machine as is or do I have to change parts? Don't have the want to buy a spool gun at this point. Thanks
Re: firefly 130 use for aluminum
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:07 pm
by cj737
I doubt seriously you can run aluminum wire from a spool with that machine as it’s not a push-pull MIG. I’m not even sure it’s compatible with any of their spoolguns, but maybe. MIG aluminum would be run DCEP, not DCEN and you’d use 100% Argon not mixed.
Re: firefly 130 use for aluminum
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:32 pm
by HenryJ
It has both DCEN and DCEP. I cannot put pictures on here.
Re: firefly 130 use for aluminum
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:10 am
by tweake
running the aluminum wire is the easy part. fit a nylon liner and use a fairly stiff wire (eg 5356) and it will feed through a short torch. you will also need to right drive rollers.
however lack of amps is a big issue and also lack of fine adjustment controls. dialing it in is a real pain and i'm not sure if you can even do it on a 4 tap machine.
in all honestly i would use a mig thats been designed to run aluminum mig.
Re: firefly 130 use for aluminum
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:57 pm
by drizler1
How about using a torch to preheat and weld it while hot?
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Re: firefly 130 use for aluminum
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:14 am
by tweake
drizler1 wrote:How about using a torch to preheat and weld it while hot?
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that helps with lack of amps, but if you can't dail it in your weld will be crap.
Re: firefly 130 use for aluminum
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:11 am
by HenryJ
Thank you all for the info.
The chart on the door shows 20ga max for aluminum. 1/8 max for steel.
Re: firefly 130 use for aluminum
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:05 pm
by Bill Beauregard
Aluminum MIG is normally considered to be a 1/8" and thicker process. I've done little, but found it tough on thin metal. I'd think you need a much bigger machine for a spool gun to work. Miller did react to the new Ford trucks with all aluminum bodies. They call it "optimized" for thin aluminum sheet. It is a 350 sized machine, (That usually means 450 peak output.) It costs more than $10,000.
As for the question: Will it feed? The answer is absolutely NO. You'd have to run .023 wire, it'll simply birds nest in the rollers.