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Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:47 pm
by BigD
For you guys who weld racecar cages or similar, what do you use for a trigger? I can make use of the pedal in some cases but when I'm hanging over a sharp ridge with my ribs, welding behind a pipe in a footwell, trying to work the pedal with my knee.... sucks. I think I'm gonna try a torch switch with some 2T or even 4T. My local shop has a good price on the Miller thumbwheel control but I'm not sure that's any better than a button with some downslope, where I can pulse it manually to readjust instead of shaking the torch around while trying to turn a wheel.

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:55 pm
by rick9345

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:01 pm
by BigD
I've made my own. I'm just asking what experienced cage builders do. If you try to use the pedal or just stick to a switch or some linear controller.

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:51 pm
by big gear head
I've always used the pedal, behind my knee, elbow, neck, leg, between my knees or wherever I could get it and still push it down.

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:40 pm
by BigD
Have you tried a switch, you still prefer the pedal even in the really contorted areas?

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:42 pm
by big gear head
Yea, I tried a switch, but I couldn't move my hand around on the torch when I needed to.

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:51 pm
by Rick_H
I also prefer the pedal but I've done my share as scratch start....

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:00 am
by BigD
Oh ok I see, yeah that was my main concern getting one of the Miller setups like the thumbwheel. I'm thinking of using my flex head and putting a velcro ring around it, and the complementing velcro on the button. That way I can put the button anywhere around the torch

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:44 am
by AFR_Autoworks
My last welder I used a switch for the whole cage because the pedal was impossible to keep stationary. Since getting my Miller I have been in foot pedal bliss. I would never go back. Also, if you find yourself in really bad positions duct tape the pedal to your foot so you can push it against anything you can find. I have never had much luck using my knees like some guys can. I was even thinking about attaching some Velcro straps to my pedal for this very reason.

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:27 am
by motox
AFR
thought i was the only nut to tape
the peddle to my foot. i was lying
on my back welding a replacement hitch
on trailer. just pushed it against the
tire.
craig

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:06 am
by Coldman
Most of my welding is field pressure piping. Mostly this is done in these parts with scratch start but I prefer hf start. I have a small button 2T switch zip tied to my torches which gives me the extra benefit of downslope pulsing. Being zip tied I can spin it around the torch to a comfortable location for when I change hands or position. Works very well. Can't stand thumb wheels and the like. Pedals are great for shop work but if you're up a ladder or in awkward positions on site you quickly realize the pedal should have been left in the shop.

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:30 pm
by BigD
Thanks for the input guys! Taping the pedal is a cool idea, especially with the wireless. I just might try that.

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:24 am
by Rick_H
I'm also a proud member of taping pedals, and I've also had some one be my foot pedal if I'm not by myself has to be someone that welds if you want them to understand what a little more is....my wife just didn't get it..lol

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:30 am
by BigD
Hmm, voice controlled foot pedal... take that Miller!

I tried the switch last night, definitely the way to go for what I was doing but I can see if the metal was thin, varying thickness, had gaps etc it just wouldn't work. Or I would at best have to stop and readjust all the time. But welding the cage joints with good fitup it was great

Re: Cage welding and torch trigger

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:47 pm
by LtBadd
BigD wrote:Hmm, voice controlled foot pedal... take that Miller!
Voice control with heads up display showing amps, wire speed (MIG), voltage...or...