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tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:26 am
by hh30
Hello, i'm looking for tig welder and tools for welding car parts (aluminum and stainless steel). I can buy this tig welder http://maszynowy.eu/spawarka-inwertorow ... likon.html for 3400€. What you think about it, is it fine? What tools could you suggest to buy for rest money?

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 11:14 pm
by weldin mike 27
Hey,

Welcome to our forum. I believe that brand is quite good quality, i have seen some of their website whilst researching filler material.

For the rest of your money, firstly buy a decent autodarkening welding shield, being in Europe, a Speedglass Kempii Fronius Optrel or Esab one will do nicely, A small 100mm angle grinder and and assortment of grinding cutting sanding and polishing discs and you are ready to go. A further must have for ALUM is a STAINLESS STEEL wire brush, this must be only used on alum so it doesnt become contaminated. Lots of clamps of all different types.

Other that that, everything else is icing on the cake that you can purchase later on.

Hope this helps, Mick

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 4:10 am
by VooDoo
Just got myself Esab heliarc 283i, Incredible how smoooth arc it has, only test"drived" it for 1 night, but it feels so differend to my old "ims" chinese mahcine, MUCH better arc.


And the Max output at 100% duty cycle, A 280 is a nice bonus.. http://forum.weldingtipsandtricks.com/i ... rgreen.gif


http://products.esab.com/Templates/T041.asp?id=198162

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:50 am
by hh30
i need to spend 5250 euro for all things, and welding machine has to be mobile so i can take it to any place.

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:01 am
by wheresmejumper
hh30 wrote:Hello, i'm looking for tig welder and tools for welding car parts (aluminum and stainless steel). I can buy this tig welder http://maszynowy.eu/spawarka-inwertorow ... likon.html for 3400€. What you think about it, is it fine? What tools could you suggest to buy for rest money?
That looks like a kemppi 2300mls but in blue.must be a copy.
its about the same price too, id try to get the original

http://www.kemppi.com/inet/kemppi/kit.n ... endocument

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:53 pm
by hh30
wheresmejumper wrote:
hh30 wrote:Hello, i'm looking for tig welder and tools for welding car parts (aluminum and stainless steel). I can buy this tig welder http://maszynowy.eu/spawarka-inwertorow ... likon.html for 3400€. What you think about it, is it fine? What tools could you suggest to buy for rest money?
That looks like a kemppi 2300mls but in blue.must be a copy.
its about the same price too, id try to get the original

http://www.kemppi.com/inet/kemppi/kit.n ... endocument
hm interesting, its really same machine? My friend who are selling me this said that the original one is more expensive.
What you think ,its the best tig welder which will be also mobile?

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:25 pm
by wheresmejumper
Its the same output,230 amps, and the exact same front panel, which is a unique one.
the price of them both is the same when you include VAT , or tax.
the kemppi has a very good reputation, but I have never used it.
if it was me, I would go for a EWM tetrix 220acdc, or save a bit more and get a fronius 2200.
but the 4 machines will all be of a similar high quality

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:52 pm
by hh30
i also thought about ewm tetrix 230(newer model), but is it better than kemppi 2300/or oerlikon 240 acdc ? Is it worth extra money to pay for ewm ?

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:04 pm
by Otto Nobedder
I didn't know Oerlikon made a welder.

If it's as solid and reliable as their vacuum pumps, it's certainly worth a look. I use their vacuum pumps regularly, and they have well over 50,000 hours on them with oil-change every 1000 hours being the only maintenance.

Steve S

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:11 pm
by wheresmejumper
hh30 wrote:i also thought about ewm tetrix 230(newer model), but is it better than kemppi 2300/or oerlikon 240 acdc ? Is it worth extra money to pay for ewm ?
Sorry, I meant the tetrix 230 also.
it is the same price as the kemppi/oerlikon

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:14 pm
by wheresmejumper
Otto Nobedder wrote:I didn't know Oerlikon made a welder.

If it's as solid and reliable as their vacuum pumps, it's certainly worth a look. I use their vacuum pumps regularly, and they have well over 50,000 hours on them with oil-change every 1000 hours being the only maintenance.

Steve S
They sell a few models, their newest few look an exact copy of the kemppi line, so either built under licence or resold.
The only hesitation id have is, being French,their meaning of the word warranty is different than anyone else in the developed world.this isnt a slur on oerlikon, but the french in general

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:19 pm
by wheresmejumper
Otto Nobedder wrote:
If it's as solid and reliable as their vacuum pumps, it's certainly worth a look. I use their vacuum pumps regularly, and they have well over 50,000 hours on them with oil-change every 1000 hours being the only maintenance.

Steve S
:D

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:24 pm
by Otto Nobedder
HELL YEAH! That's the one....
and after 50,000 hours, I now have a "trip hazard".
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Steve S

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:40 pm
by wheresmejumper
They make a lot of good stick rods, big variety.
one of the most common filler brands in Europe.

Re: tig welder + tools ~5000€

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 8:11 am
by weldin mike 27
Oh.... You crazy guys. I love this joint. :lol:
Mick