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Mild steel overhead problems... Please help

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 11:46 pm
by BrandonSpringle
Hello everyone.
So last time I posted on here I was having trouble with horizontal. Now I'm having trouble with overhead.
Vertical was a piece of cake.
Mild steel to mild steel T joint. 1/4" thick base metals. Using 2% thoriated tungsten and 3/32 70s filler metal. 100% argon gas. TurboTorch. And weld machine is on 155. Argon pressure is at 25-30psi.
I have to put down a single pass 1/4inch bead. The dual pass 3/8's bead. Then triple pass 5/8's bead.
So every time I try to put down a 1/4 inch bead I get undercut to the top base metal. And every time I put the second or third pass on my 3/8's and 5/8's I get undercut.
Any advice or ideas on how to prevent the undercut will help a lot.
Thanks.

Re: Mild steel overhead problems... Please help

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 2:54 am
by AKweldshop
Here's Jody's video on it.

Hope this helps,

~John

http://welding-tv.com/tig-welding-overh ... -overhead/

Re: Mild steel overhead problems... Please help

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:26 am
by blaz
I have found that torch angle is a big reason for under cut.

Re: Mild steel overhead problems... Please help

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:22 pm
by BrandonSpringle
I'm thinking it's angle too but can not figure out what angle will work.

Re: Mild steel overhead problems... Please help

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 2:23 pm
by MinnesotaDave
Does under-cut mean under-fill in this case?

I've noticed that whatever process I use, stick/tig/mig, if it's undercut, often I have traveled too fast to fill the cut it (mig/stick) or just didn't fill enough (tig).

Re: Mild steel overhead problems... Please help

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:38 pm
by Mongol
Do you have any wiggle room on those parameters? 155 amps is kind of a lot for 3/32" filler and is probably a contributing factor in your undercut. I'd switch to 1/8" at that amperage.

And are you letting it cool any in between passes? Undercut is simply melting material without replacing it, and getting it too hot is a good way to melt a lot of material really fast.