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Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 12:07 am
by StoksStandard
Hi from New Zealand,

I have a General Electric T-58-8b gas turbine engine in my garage that I'm in the process of fitting into a speedboat.
The engine is a left-hand engine from a 'SeaKing' helicopter from the late 60's.
In order to mount the engine in the boat successfully, the power turbine/exhaust housing needs to be rotated 90 degrees to face upwards. Aside from rotating the casing and internal components to satisfy the requirements of the oil system, there are a couple of fittings on the exhaust casing that I need to relocate.

From what I have read in the maintenance manuals for this engine, the casing is likely AMS-5541 'Inconel W' ?? while the fittings I will be moving are likely Hastelloy X or W. ??

Question - what would be the suggested TIG filler to re-weld these materials?

Also, is it possible to add some additional fittings that are 304 or 316 Stainless to the Inconel successfully?
These fittings are not load-bearing or exposed to temperatures above ~600degC.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated, I'm sure there are some welders among this forum that have personally welded old gas turbines in their career. :D

Look forward to posting pictures of this project as I go

Thanks!
Elmo

Re: Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 1:26 pm
by cab
https://m.me/SpecialtyTechnicalWeldingInc
Contact Terry ,AKA Texas Viking, he's been welding exotic metals for 40yrs.

Re: Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:21 pm
by LtBadd
Another source might be Special Metals, they have an ask the expert contact form

Re: Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 10:52 pm
by Oscar
If they are Hastelloy-W or -X, just get yourself some of that filler rod. Not difficult to find. There is Hastelloy-W on Ebay right now. $43/lb. I've ordered from weldwire.net. 1/16" Hast-W (ERNiMo-3) is about $45/lb but that was 3 years ago. They also have Hast-X (ERNiCrMo-2) but I don't remember the pricing.

Re: Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:16 am
by StoksStandard
Thanks for the input guys, it is much appreciated :D
Looking at the data sheet for ERNiCrMo-3, it is suitable for joining dissimilar metals such as Hastelloy and Inconel and stainless also. It might be the go-to for this job.
Cheers

Re: Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 1:43 am
by Oscar
StoksStandard wrote:Thanks for the input guys, it is much appreciated :D
Looking at the data sheet for ERNiCrMo-3, it is suitable for joining dissimilar metals such as Hastelloy and Inconel and stainless also. It might be the go-to for this job.
Cheers

BTW, ERNiCrMo-3 is Inconel-625 as it's otherwise known. I've used it to TIG plain ol' mild steel as well.

Re: Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 2:11 am
by StoksStandard
So Hastelloy W and Inconel 625 are the same thing, going by what you were saying above... or am I confused?

Re: Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 8:05 am
by Oscar
StoksStandard wrote:So Hastelloy W and Inconel 625 are the same thing, going by what you were saying above... or am I confused?
Confused.

ERNiCrMo-3 is Inconel 625
ERNiMo-3 ie Hastelloy-W

:)

Re: Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 4:59 pm
by StoksStandard
Oscar wrote:
StoksStandard wrote:So Hastelloy W and Inconel 625 are the same thing, going by what you were saying above... or am I confused?
Confused.

ERNiCrMo-3 is Inconel 625
ERNiMo-3 ie Hastelloy-W

:)
My apologies, I missed the 'Cr' in the Inconel :roll:
Thanks again for your input

Re: Gas Turbine Exhaust Casing Mods

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 5:50 pm
by Oscar
BTW, do you think you could find a use for Inconel 718 and/or x750? I'm planning on ordering some but the more quantity the better the price break.