Triple Threat - 4043 vs 4047 vs 4943 vs cast aluminum
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:53 pm
Long story short, trying to decide the ideal TIG filler material for fixing a busted transmission mount ear as well as a planetary gear housing crack both cast aluminum. Currently using 4043 filler rod and wondering if there is a better alternative. If the information helps, it's an older aircooled Porsche casting. It's aluminum but what "kind" of aluminum is to be determined really... I know they used to make a lot of magnesium parts so is it possible to be high enough in Mg to make 4043 no good?
From what I've gathered 5356 alloy has some magnesium in it and 4043 has some silicon in it. As I said before, I don't know if these aluminum castings have any Mg in them but most have said 4043 is better for cast materials as it resists cracking while cooling so that's what I began with.
I also understand 4047 has higher silicon content and wets out easier with slightly lower melting temp. This is supposed to be beneficial for porosity on cast stuff as it doesn't pull up as much contaminants from the base metal (something I'm DEFINITELY running into). So I'm considering trying some of the 4047
But then we have the newest proprietary blend from Hobart... the 4943 which is supposedly supposed to have same benefits of 4047 vs 4043 but "better"? It's blend is also secret so who knows really if it'd be any leg up on the 4047 in this application. Both seem equally hard to locate also BTW. My local welding supply told me on the phone I couldn't get a pound of either and that I'd need to get 10#. I said "OK" and then when I showed up, he made his phone call and told me min. order was 40lbs @ 6 bucks a pound
I said "hold on, I need to figure some things out before I ever dedicate to that much filler rod"
Anyone having made successful repairs to engine cases, transmission cases, or any other cast aluminum Porsche parts; I'd love to hear you procedure for making it not look like total crap. I've already tried carbide burr, cook/preheat with torch, high % A/C balance for more cleaning action, the works... I'm causing porosity in nearby areas trying to wet out the dab I'm currently hovering over so it seems like a lower melting point and less base metal dilution would be of help here.
Thanks for any advice, I know this is a whopper of a first introduction post
From what I've gathered 5356 alloy has some magnesium in it and 4043 has some silicon in it. As I said before, I don't know if these aluminum castings have any Mg in them but most have said 4043 is better for cast materials as it resists cracking while cooling so that's what I began with.
I also understand 4047 has higher silicon content and wets out easier with slightly lower melting temp. This is supposed to be beneficial for porosity on cast stuff as it doesn't pull up as much contaminants from the base metal (something I'm DEFINITELY running into). So I'm considering trying some of the 4047
But then we have the newest proprietary blend from Hobart... the 4943 which is supposedly supposed to have same benefits of 4047 vs 4043 but "better"? It's blend is also secret so who knows really if it'd be any leg up on the 4047 in this application. Both seem equally hard to locate also BTW. My local welding supply told me on the phone I couldn't get a pound of either and that I'd need to get 10#. I said "OK" and then when I showed up, he made his phone call and told me min. order was 40lbs @ 6 bucks a pound
I said "hold on, I need to figure some things out before I ever dedicate to that much filler rod"
Anyone having made successful repairs to engine cases, transmission cases, or any other cast aluminum Porsche parts; I'd love to hear you procedure for making it not look like total crap. I've already tried carbide burr, cook/preheat with torch, high % A/C balance for more cleaning action, the works... I'm causing porosity in nearby areas trying to wet out the dab I'm currently hovering over so it seems like a lower melting point and less base metal dilution would be of help here.
Thanks for any advice, I know this is a whopper of a first introduction post