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best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:17 am
by typ122
Hey guys I'm new to the forum. I have some experience tig welding with my old job but I would like to get a welding machine for my home shop. I was using a miller 210 at my old job. I don't usually weld anything crazy thick but would like to do at least 1/4". Thanks for you input.

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:10 pm
by Farmwelding
typ122 wrote:Hey guys I'm new to the forum. I have some experience tig welding with my old job but I would like to get a welding machine for my home shop. I was using a miller 210 at my old job. I don't usually weld anything crazy thick but would like to do at least 1/4". Thanks for you input.
Any idea how much you are willing to spend and what type of projects you might plan on doing?

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:59 pm
by typ122
ill be welding axle housings for race cars,brackets and other things of that nature. Aluminum stuff, oil pan repairs.

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:51 pm
by LtBadd
I'll assume your budget is $2k or less for a AC/DC Tig unit and you're located in the US

Some options are

Miller Diversion

Lincoln Square Wave tig 200

Everlast, you'll find some love them, some hate them.

AHP makes a unit for around $1k, never used one but have read good things. Foot pedal is very basic

Like most budget machines, you may not (will not) be satisfied with everything, such as the foot pedal or TIG torch, therefore you should have extra $$ set aside should you want to upgrade

The Lincoln may be the best, depending...

1/4" aluminum is the top end (or close to it) for these units

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:26 pm
by Poland308
I would add the Esab 186i. I have the thermal arc version and have been happy so far. Also less than $2k.

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:59 pm
by Farmwelding
LtBadd wrote:I'll assume your budget is $2k or less for a AC/DC Tig unit and you're located in the US

Some options are

Miller Diversion

Lincoln Square Wave tig 200

Everlast, you'll find some love them, some hate them.

AHP makes a unit for around $1k, never used one but have read good things. Foot pedal is very basic

Like most budget machines, you may not (will not) be satisfied with everything, such as the foot pedal or TIG torch, therefore you should have extra $$ set aside should you want to upgrade

The Lincoln may be the best, depending...

1/4" aluminum is the top end (or close to it) for these units
I've used both the diversion and squarewave. If it comes to those two, squarewave all the way. Added features for aluminum and stick welding in case you need it and it is still cheaper than the diversion.

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:23 am
by Bradk
typ 122,
Don't forget the CK Worldwide MT-200 ac/dc Tig, it is pricier at $2155 but is supposed to be an excellent machine. Check out reviews and videos on the unit. Price given is at Arczone where I buy a lot of stuff online. I have a Lincoln SquareWave Tig 200 and really enjoy the machine but changed my torch to a TEC Welding Products sz 17 torch as I wanted a shorter torch body than the Lincoln sz 17 which is ok, just personal choice. I also own a Everlast PowerTig 250EX with an Everlast water cooler as well, whole different league then the air cooled torch (no hot torch to fry my fingers). I sometimes am using the air cooled torch on my Lincoln and end up roasting my index finger from holding a bead too long, just a dumb ass I guess? Ouch!

Brad

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:38 am
by LtBadd
Bradk wrote:typ 122,
Don't forget the CK Worldwide MT-200 ac/dc Tig, it is pricier at $2155 but is supposed to be an excellent machine.
Brad
Wow that's quite a bit more then the Lincoln, it better shine for that cost. Have never seen any reviews for that unit, but then I haven't went looking.

Right now you can but the SW TIG 200 and get a $125 rebate as well. Plenty of good reviews of this machine out there

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:30 pm
by Oscar
The AHP still seems to be the best bang-for-the-buck, IMO. Just rig up something for the footpedal, and you're golden.

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:31 pm
by sedanman
LtBadd wrote:
Bradk wrote:typ 122,
Don't forget the CK Worldwide MT-200 ac/dc Tig, it is pricier at $2155 but is supposed to be an excellent machine.
Brad
Wow that's quite a bit more then the Lincoln, it better shine for that cost. Have never seen any reviews for that unit, but then I haven't went looking.

Right now you can but the SW TIG 200 and get a $125 rebate as well. Plenty of good reviews of this machine out there

The CK Worldwide machine is a Razorweld 200 acdc in a different case. The Razorweld can be had for $1,700 and is awesome at that price point.

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:36 am
by Bradk
Sedanman,
I guess you pay an extra $400 for the CK wrapping? Good to know!
Brad
I guess you could always buy an Everlast, I saw the 250 EX recently on the market for around $1395. Weld 1/4 inch no issues.

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:00 pm
by tungstendipper
sedanman wrote:
LtBadd wrote:
Bradk wrote:typ 122,
Don't forget the CK Worldwide MT-200 ac/dc Tig, it is pricier at $2155 but is supposed to be an excellent machine.
Brad
Wow that's quite a bit more then the Lincoln, it better shine for that cost. Have never seen any reviews for that unit, but then I haven't went looking.

Right now you can but the SW TIG 200 and get a $125 rebate as well. Plenty of good reviews of this machine out there

The CK Worldwide machine is a Razorweld 200 acdc in a different case. The Razorweld can be had for $1,700 and is awesome at that price point.
CK Worldwide are awesome products with great customer service!!

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:38 pm
by sedanman
Bradk wrote:Sedanman,
I guess you pay an extra $400 for the CK wrapping? Good to know!
Brad
I guess you could always buy an Everlast, I saw the 250 EX recently on the market for around $1395. Weld 1/4 inch no issues.
The bigger case allows for slightly better cooling thus a duty cycle improvement. The CK version also comes with a CK torch.

Re: best budget AC/DC tig machine

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:58 am
by bruce991
I have a Lincoln Squarewave 200 and recommend highly