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Manual preflow observation

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:25 pm
by nelson
My jobs are mostly small. I plan and prepare, then switch on/gas on.

Lately I don't do too much prep, going for fast and strong, not pretty.

Do you guys kick the pedal once at first just to purge the torch cable without welding? Sounds logical but I've never heard of it.

Thanks!

Re: Manual preflow observation

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:31 pm
by Farmwelding
nelson wrote:My jobs are mostly small. I plan and prepare, then switch on/gas on.

Lately I don't do too much prep, going for fast and strong, not pretty.

Do you guys kick the pedal once at first just to purge the torch cable without welding? Sounds logical but I've never heard of it.

Thanks!
Sometime I do but I don't do a while lot of critical work that would require a pre flow. Although I believe the machine I use has a pre set 1 or 2 second pre flow any way. A lot of newer machines have pre flow settings as well.

Re: Manual preflow observation

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:56 pm
by Oscar
Adjusting for a longer pre-flow accomplishes just that. On a 12.5ft gas hose, 0.4s usually enough, but on a 25ft hose, I prefer to use 0.6-0.8s.

Re: Manual preflow observation

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:07 pm
by noddybrian
Always do it as most of the machines I use don't have auto preflow - majority of Chinese machines seen here don't have preflow either - mate just bought an interesting one cheap - not had a chance to try it but it looks like they are really putting some effort into R&D - will hopefully get a chance to play & report back.

Re: Manual preflow observation

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:16 pm
by nelson
Yeah, I have one of those (relatively) cheap ones...no preflow. Odd that I've never seen this mentioned, with all the shining welding I've seen here. I plan to start doing it regularly. Will it hurt the spark gap, etc?

Re: Manual preflow observation

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:21 pm
by noddybrian
It has been mentioned but not often - I believe Jody mentioned it when testing that nasty AHP thing - they seem to listen to feedback so maybe next years model will have preflow ! - don't think dry firing a Tig will hurt anything but some don't like firing the HF on the next start so you have to momentarily earth the electrode without power to discharge residual volts first.

Re: Manual preflow observation

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:37 pm
by Otto Nobedder
I do this.

Syncrowave 250DX.

I tap the pedal for a pre-flow, then drop my hood and arc off.

Not for the pre-flow benefit, but because if the pre-flow is established, I have a stable arc immediately, where it may wander a bit if I just drop my hood and "pedal down".

Steve S

Re: Manual preflow observation

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:30 pm
by Poland308
I have a 25 ft hose and a 50 ft. I have a pre flow of 1 second. It works well with both and it's not a terrible lag on the arc start.

Re: Manual preflow observation

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:38 am
by cj737
I tap the pedal before I drop the hood to insure I have the gas ON when I strike my first arc. Then I know I have gas flowing to the part, the line is fully pressurized, and I can confirm the flow to my cheek.

On stainless especially, I pre-flow manually for several seconds to purge the area, then while flowing over the part, arc up, weld, then post flow. And post flow manually again. For me, it produces much better welds. You don't need to spark to get the gas flowing, simply turn the cup away and bump the pedal. The solenoid should fire and allow the gas to run.