Page 1 of 1

That time again

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:12 am
by Streamwelder
Time to re-cert on D17.1, not a very big deal except for the thorn in all aero welder's side (aluminum T). My question to those who have experience with it is, Can I fit the joint open root? The T joint diagrams in D17.1 show the joint having a gap in it. Although I can't find any dimensions on what size gap is acceptable, but at the same time can't find anything saying it has to be closed root. Also I can't find any accept/reject dimensions on melt-thru or push-thru. Thanks in advance for any and all input.

Re: That time again

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:27 pm
by LtBadd
That is interesting, when I took this test it was to MIL-STD 1595, many years ago, I don't think we had that option. You just need penetration to the root, right? We had Miller Syncrowave 300, used zirconium tungsten and put the pedal to it.

Re: That time again

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:23 pm
by Otto Nobedder
Streamwelder wrote:Time to re-cert on D17.1...
If it's a re-cert, I'm curious why you don't already know.

Steve S

Re: That time again

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:45 am
by Streamwelder
Just trying to find other options instead of fighting the root fusion. I've never tried it with an open root, just wondering if anyone else had.

Re: That time again

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:59 am
by Streamwelder
That's right Badd, that's the rough part .040-.050 6061 with pretty much 100% root fusion. We're allowed .1 x's the leg size or less of incomplete fusion at the root.

Re: That time again

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:08 pm
by Otto Nobedder
I'll have to dig. Jody did a video specifically on this in the past few months. I think he discusses acceptance criteria. I don't recall him mentioning a root gap, though. The test should have a WPS supported by a PQR, with all the pertinent specs. To test you with a drawing alone is setting you up for trouble.

[Edit] Here it is on youtube:

http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/alu ... t-d17.html
Read the written blurb below the video before you hit "play".

Steve S