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i am new to the welding world so my knowledge level is zero
I am just getting quotes on argon price locally here in northern California and i went to a Local welding supply to see if they will sell a 330 cf tank filled with 100% argon so this is what i got :
330 cf cylinder = 512 tax included.
Argon = 195 tax included .
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total =$707.00

argon refills = $195 tax included .

does it sound like an average price ?
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I just exchanged my 125 scf argon tank at Airgas the other day in Union City, CA. The price was $105.33. I've never bought a tank that large (330) but they are expensive. I've been lucky enough to inherit or find old tanks to trade in. I had to buy a small 40 scf nitro tank several years back and I seem to remember it was a couple hundred dollars so I think you're in the ballpark.
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NO, I rent my 330 argon bottle, my first fill was $38, now I should add that was with the purchase of a machine, however I don't believe it'll change much on refill. We've had these threads before and I've never seen the numbers your getting
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I thought our refills were a bit pricy at around $50-$60. That seems extra high.
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I pay $64 for a 330cf refill south of Shitcago. My 7 year lease on the bottle was $270.
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That price sounds like a purchase price of the cylinder with lots of markup for them. Supplier arrangements vary regionally and by company, and whether you buy or rent/lease depends on your financial preferences. If you buy, though, >you< are responsible for cylinder maintenance, such as valve repair and testing.

Frankly, the refill price they gave you is absurd. Do yourself a favor and shop around!
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If you like this LWS then it sounds like you just need to build a relationship with them. Often they will jack up the price if they don't know you well. If they think that your a one time purchaser then they want to make there cut from that one visit. Explain to them that you live close by,that you're just getting started out, or that you're looking to start a business. Shop there and check prices even if you don't buy anything. Try to buy even some of your small stuff that you would normally buy off the Internet or elsewhere there. And don't be afraid to talk to a sales rep about getting a better pricing schedule.
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Shut up guys and don't complain... ;)

Changed a 140 cf bottle yesterday, 100$ and that's below list price.
5$ surcharge for the integrated regulator but not even close your prices.
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Down here at the arse end of the world to exchange a cylinder you already own for a full one of argon is E sized, (4000 litres, 141 cf ) is $175 pacific Paso's.
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I own Two 330ci bottles and they are $40.00 to fill in Texas
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i prefer to rent the 330's that way i just drop the empty
and pickup a full bottle.
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Couple months ago was $55 for 125 cf owner tank refill of argon in So Oregon.
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andreb wrote:I just exchanged my 125 scf argon tank at Airgas the other day in Union City, CA. The price was $105.33. I've never bought a tank that large (330) but they are expensive. I've been lucky enough to inherit or find old tanks to trade in. I had to buy a small 40 scf nitro tank several years back and I seem to remember it was a couple hundred dollars so I think you're in the ballpark.
so you are virtually in the same area, i am in Pittsburgh close to concord, probably you know around here, but if you see the rest of the comments it looks like here in CA we pay 300% more. :(
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maybe i did not post given information properly
the guys form the LWS will seel a 330 cf cylinder to me so i can own it for $ 512+argon $195= $707 then every time i want to refill it will cost me $195.00.
looks like here in my area, this is it.$$$
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the prices i posted above( pictures) are for cylinder exchange , just for the gas itself. it matches exactly the price that one of you guy from around here (union city ) also posted earlier.
I think the guys from LWS was giving me a discount already :D
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AndersK wrote:Shut up guys and don't complain... ;)

Changed a 140 cf bottle yesterday, 100$ and that's below list price.
5$ surcharge for the integrated regulator but not even close your prices.
Yeah.....but you get to live in Sweden don't forget.
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so you are virtually in the same area, i am in Pittsburgh close to concord, probably you know around here, but if you see the rest of the comments it looks like here in CA we pay 300% more. :([/quote]

Yep! Welcome to the Bay Area for pricing. And its not like we have a lot of choices; Airgas, Praxait and Alliance are about it for me. I'm sure a refill in San Francisco will be even more! I don't know if Airgas "rents" cylinders but you can ask. Good luck.
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nelson wrote:
Yeah.....but you get to live in Sweden don't forget.
Forgot that
Yeah, truck drivers has to fight both polar bears and Vikings to get the gas here, of course there has to be a surcharge ;)
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AndersK wrote:
nelson wrote:
Yeah.....but you get to live in Sweden don't forget.
Forgot that
Yeah, truck drivers has to fight both polar bears and Vikings to get the gas here, of course there has to be a surcharge ;)
Vikings hijacking argon trucks I get...I think you're fibbing about those bears though.

I use 80cf...chump change and I don't see the bill.
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AndersK wrote:
nelson wrote:
Yeah.....but you get to live in Sweden don't forget.
Forgot that
Yeah, truck drivers has to fight both polar bears and Vikings to get the gas here, of course there has to be a surcharge ;)
:lol: :lol: And with all the "refugees..you might get raped. Delivering gas in Sweden has become a brand new game :lol:
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Trust me on this: If it's Airgas, and it's
humblest wrote:argon refills = $195 tax included .
TODAY, then it will be
$495
+ hazmat
+ tax
+ demurrage
+ excise
+ VAT
+ gratuity
+ shrinkage
+ fees
+ gratuity
+ whatever else they can think of
TOMORROW.

Why? Because THAT'S AIRGAS.
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Lightning wrote:Trust me on this: If it's Airgas, and it's
humblest wrote:argon refills = $195 tax included .
TODAY, then it will be
$495
+ hazmat
+ tax
+ demurrage
+ excise
+ VAT
+ gratuity
+ shrinkage
+ fees
+ gratuity
+ whatever else they can think of
TOMORROW.

Why? Because THAT'S AIRGAS.
Aire Liquide bought out AirGas.
It might get better, it might get worse.
We shall see.

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Getting better with Air Liquide? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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