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Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:42 am
by fitter33
I just started attending stick welding class at the local fitters hall, and so far I've done 2 X 2.5 hour sessions over 2 weeks, and I'm using a Lincoln Invertec 350 at 73-78 amps with 1/8" 6010 rods. I am learning a lot about rod angle, travel speed, and arc gap, but I feel like I'm not progressing well overall, specifically keeping my beads straight/square. Any tips other than run more stringers? The welding instructor wants me to progress to welding together 2 pieces of plate next week. Would I be better off running a weld pad? Thanks- AJ
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Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:45 am
by AKweldshop
Just the video for you mate :D
I'd turn it up to 90-100amps....set more on the crisp side.

http://welding-tv.com/2013/11/05/6010-pad-beads/

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:23 am
by fitter33
AKweldshop wrote:Just the video for you mate :D
I'd turn it up to 90-100amps....set more on the crisp side.

http://welding-tv.com/2013/11/05/6010-pad-beads/
Great video, thanks!

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:53 am
by AKweldshop
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Here's some I've run, (just messing around on scrap), this was with a Invertec 250, about 100amps, +10 arc force....

1/8" 7010 hyp.
You need at least 90amps.

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:40 am
by fitter33
AKweldshop wrote:Image



Here's some I've run, (just messing around on scrap), this was with a Invertec 250, about 100amps, +10 arc force....

1/8" 7010 hyp.
You need at least 90amps.
Good to know, thanks. Were you using the whip and pause on these beads ?

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:22 pm
by AKweldshop
fitter33 wrote:
AKweldshop wrote:Image



Here's some I've run, (just messing around on scrap), this was with a Invertec 250, about 100amps, +10 arc force....

1/8" 7010 hyp.
You need at least 90amps.
Good to know, thanks. Were you using the whip and pause on these beads ?
Yes....It helps flatten the bead out for me.

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:32 pm
by Blue Diver
Do you know how you get to Carnegie Hall? ............. Practice.

Don't get discouraged. It is easier than ever to learn a trade these days. If you have the passion to learn, the information is out there. Watch youtube, read a book, look at a forum ( like this one! :D ) and go weld. Have a problem? Google it and there are ample answers to help remedy your problem.

I learned to weld in the Navy, but have not run more than a few beads in the last 5 years or so. I have recently set out on my own welding odyssey to knock off the rust and re-ignite the fire for fabrication. I use it in my business but also find it very enjoyable to end the day with a few holes in my clothes and something that I built with my own hands that will stand the test of time. I have basically started over in my education. Today I finished padding a plate much like yours with 6011 and an old buzz box. After completion, I felt like I should get another plate and do it again!

My advice is to try and not get ahead of yourself. There are so many types of welding, so many base metals, so many filler metals, etc. that it can seem to be overwhelming. Your working 6010.... go learn everything you can about the rod, how the pros use the rod and what they use it for. Then go work on that rod. Don't worry about 7018, 7014, 6013, and the million other SMAW rods. And don't even think about GTAW or GMAW and everything that gos along with them.

Hope this helps.

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:05 pm
by Louie1961
your beads look cold and "ropey" to me, you may need more amps. Your travel speed looks a little inconsistent as well. As far as "straightness" that will come when you have a target to aim for. You could draw soapstone lines on the plate, or just go on to padding beads. when padding beads, try to overlap the previous bead by ~50%. That gives you a target to aim for and you can practice aiming your beads so to speak. Its a precursor to placing your beads correctly in a lap or tee joint. If it were me, I would switch to rod that isn't fast freeze. Might make your initial practice more productive if you aren't trying to figure out how to whip and pause while you are also trying to aim the bead correctly. Too many moving parts at once in my opinion.

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:38 pm
by ChrisP
All good advice here. Keep practicing, evaluate what you see and try to improve on the rough spots. I personally would recommend a pad "exercise", it will help you make more consistent and straighter beads. Keep working at it!!!

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:47 am
by AKweldshop
ChrisP wrote:All good advice here. Keep practicing, evaluate what you see and try to improve on the rough spots. I personally would recommend a pad "exercise", it will help you make more consistent and straighter beads. Keep working at it!!!

Welcome to the forum mate!!
I love your sig line!!

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:40 pm
by forrestderp
Hey man if you are still having trouble going straight, just draw a straight line with your soap stone and a straight edge and follow that!

Re: Seeking critique and advice

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:01 pm
by ChrisP
Thank You!!!