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Z Weave trouble
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:44 pm
by william74
Hello, I am having a little trouble getting the Z weave down. I am using 7018 3/32 on a Vertical uphill joint. Most of trouble is the weave either not tying in good or holding toes long enough. When i hold corners and the problem startes on the middle. It just doesn't seem to tie in fluid. Looks like unsealed joint when doing the weave. been on z weave for a minute. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
Re: Z Weave trouble
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:35 am
by Superiorwelding
william74,
Can you get a pic up? First response sounds like maybe you need to hold the sides , say for a count of two, and sweep across the middle. Another way to do it is a upside down V. Jody has very good videos to help you with this.
http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/sti ... -test.html
http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/sti ... part2.html
Keep us posted.
-Jonathan
Re: Z Weave trouble
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:23 pm
by AKweldshop
Re: Z Weave trouble
Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:59 pm
by weldin mike 27
Hey,
The thing to remember with vert stick is that you need to keep the arc length constant across the middle, ( what mig does for you) so your Z weave also needs to incorporate a ^ motion into the root of the joint. Otherwise you will end up with a slag inclusion right up the middle. (on the root run only)
Hope this helps.
Mick
Re: Z Weave trouble
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:21 am
by william74
Sorry no pics I had my smartphone stolen so basic flip style for now. Videos are awesome though so I think need hold toes longer and make sure puddle comes with. The only question it looks like in one video weave looks like a upside smiley face and not a Z pattern. Or am I overthinking? Will try get a pic Monday to post. Thanks.
Re: Z Weave trouble
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:04 am
by weldin mike 27
Yep i like to say that the movements should be something like this. )))))))))))) the upwards movement isnt from z ing across the middle but from stacking the "ripples" on top of each other, pause at each edge, cruise across the middle, and take a bit of fresh plate each time. around half a rod diam.
Re: Z Weave trouble
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:02 am
by hacadacalopolis
weldin mike 27 wrote:Hey,
The thing to remember with vert stick is that you need to keep the arc length constant across the middle, ( what mig does for you) so your Z weave also needs to incorporate a ^ motion into the root of the joint. Otherwise you will end up with a slag inclusion right up the middle. (on the root run only)
Hope this helps.
Mick
This bugs the hell out of me with crowning when trying to get a clean cap on vertical pipe- 5oclock to 2oclock