Steve thanks, I was worried the overhead didn't have enough cap on it. For some reason I started getting bad porosity come to find out I wasn't holding the arc short enough. They do have great penetration. I gapped them around 3/16 and burned it in real good. We will see.
The plates are packed up and will be getting shipped out tomorrow. Come to find out the company I work for noone is certified. I will be the "test bed" for getting everyone certified. The company I work for has over 1K employees too.