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JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:12 pm
by Coolidge
This arrived recently, made in USA! Its every bit of the advertised 49 lbs. Pretty happy with it so far, it does need a fine adjustment modification for height, already purchased the parts for that at my local hardware store. Also gave TIG welding aluminum a first try...FAIL!

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Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 1:05 pm
by pgk
At least now you have a sweet tubing notcher, just notch out another tube and keep practising those aluminum welds! lol What did you have to do for the height adjustment?

Pete

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 1:21 pm
by AndersK
Nice buy!

What's the red crap inside the tubing?

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:36 am
by GreinTime
I end with a dusting of red from the ceramic belts we use on the sander, could be same thing

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Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:01 am
by Coolidge
That red coating is part of the 'bright finish' process I'm guessing. Bright finish aluminum tubing does NOT weld by the way, had to grind it off aggressively.

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:06 am
by Coolidge
pgk wrote:At least now you have a sweet tubing notcher, just notch out another tube and keep practising those aluminum welds! lol What did you have to do for the height adjustment?

Pete
I'll post a picture later today, but kept it simple. Underneath the tube notcher part that raises and lowers for adjusting I drilled another hole in my work table and secured a long bolt to the table. Then I ran a nylon lock nut down the bolt and put a 2 inch steel spacer on top of it which pushes the notcher up/down by adjusting the nylon lock nut up/down.

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:09 pm
by Warrenh
That is anodized aluminum and it does weld. No grinding needed. I like that notcher.

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Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:01 pm
by Coolidge
Well it spit and sputtered and refused to puddle until I ground that bright finish off, then same settings (copied from a Jody video) it settled down and puddled. Maybe it needs more amps with that finish? I have 15 minutes experience TIG welding aluminum so keep that in mind. I wimped out by the way abandoned the aluminum and purchased some .035 wall stainless for that project. :oops:

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 3:27 pm
by noddybrian
If it's anodized then it should weld but you have to blast it with every amp you have at least initially to get through it - I rarely use the stuff but several here do & will likely chime in - I do it as basically a series of spot welds with the machine flat out on a torch switch - don't use a pedal if I can help it - I hate the thing & it's never convenient unless seated at a bench - the king of anodized does'nt seem to post here now - shame I really liked his work - maybe he is still around & lurking ! I like the notcher - is it wrong to have notcher envy ?

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 5:45 pm
by Warrenh
I weld anodized every day. It takes about 180 amps to break through the anodizing. I use a east/west control. I will describe the process I use if anyone is interested. ImageImage

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Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:09 pm
by Coolidge
By all means thanks!

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 9:31 pm
by Warrenh
Coolidge wrote:By all means thanks!
Start with gas. 30 cfph. I use 1/8th cerriated tungsten. I sharpen to a point then ball by switching to max cleaning (ep).
Set your ac balance to 70 percent (en).

This takes some practice.

Pick a starting point and run your heat up. I have had others watch for me and I usually go up to about 180 amps. You will see your anodizing start to break down. The arc usually favors one side. Reduce amps until you see the arc wander to the other side and break down that anodizing. I know it sounds crazy but it works. Once both sides are melting add filler and hold the heat for another second, until you see it flatten out. Reduce the heat until the puddle freezes. Not completely off like some videos show. Advance about 3/4 of the last puddle, start increasing the heat and add filler. Hold the heat and let the filler flatten out again.
Repeat this process for each step. You will use less heat as you go. Let the puddle be your indicator.

Let me know how it works for you and if you have any questions.

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Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:27 am
by Coolidge
Here's the simple fine adjust gadget I fabricated from hardware store parts. Worked perfectly!

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Fit was flat and true.

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Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:10 pm
by Warrenh
I showed my boss your notcher and he ordered one. Should be here any day.

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Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:47 pm
by Coolidge
Upgraded the Beast Tube Notcher with a steel machine stand I found on craigslist for cheap. That's a 24x30 5/8 thick ground steel fixture plate. I put my 24 inch Starrett rule across it, its still flat.

It had 50 plus years of grime, quite the chore sanding it down.

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Here's the base and chip tray painted, I added some stem casters.

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Drilled the 3 5/8 inch holes for the tube notcher on the new mill/drill.

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Picked this up from the previous owner Friday afternoon, finished and ready for service Sunday afternoon. I'm going to let the paint bake in my hot garage for a few days.

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Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:18 pm
by Oscar
Nice. I have a Beast as well, and yea setting the height can sometimes be a pain without an extra hand. :)

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It is significantly dirtier now a days, since it sits outside, but I give it a good oiling every now and then when I use it.

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:59 pm
by Coolidge
I used mine the other day to cope some carbon fiber tubing with a diamond hole saw.

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:53 pm
by Oscar
Coolidge wrote:I used mine the other day to cope some carbon fiber tubing with a diamond hole saw.
how you gonna weld up that carbon fibre tube? :D

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:28 pm
by Coolidge
Oscar wrote:
Coolidge wrote:I used mine the other day to cope some carbon fiber tubing with a diamond hole saw.
how you gonna weld up that carbon fibre tube? :D
TIG with carbon fiber filler rod :twisted:

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:43 pm
by Coolidge
But seriously this Buildpro welding table and JD Squared tube notcher are coming in handy.

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Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:20 pm
by Oscar
Coolidge wrote:
Oscar wrote:
Coolidge wrote:I used mine the other day to cope some carbon fiber tubing with a diamond hole saw.
how you gonna weld up that carbon fibre tube? :D
TIG with carbon fiber filler rod :twisted:
Nice. How much does it cost per pound? :lol:

Re: JD Squared - The Beast Tube Notcher

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:12 pm
by GreinTime
Oscar wrote:
Coolidge wrote:
Oscar wrote: how you gonna weld up that carbon fibre tube? :D
TIG with carbon fiber filler rod :twisted:
Nice. How much does it cost per pound? :lol:
My leg guy at one point told me the prosthetic main body was aluminum. As I found out, it is not. Not only will carbon fiber conduct amperage after a certain threshold, the resin is typically shellfish based (the ones I've used at least) and it emits a nasty puff of smoke...

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