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looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 7:31 pm
by BFid2708
hi all,
Looking for help identifying some stuff I inherited.
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 9:51 pm
by TraditionalToolworks
Welcome!
I don't know, I think you're gonna have to give a bit more information if you expect to get any help, but what do I know?
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 9:59 pm
by Poland308
I inherited a hand crank corn sheller once. Maybe I’ll trade you even up. What you got?
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 1:41 am
by tweake
BFid2708 wrote:hi all,
Looking for help identifying some stuff I inherited.
post some pics of it and of any labels.
i'm sure someone will know it.
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:19 am
by BillE.Dee
that's what that dirt stuff looked like just before I invented it...
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 7:17 am
by BFid2708
Thanks for the responses and sorry for lack of info I was having trouble getting the post to go through.
So what I have is a lincoln hi-freq k-799
Wondering about the torch that came with it mostly. What are the 4 hook ups coming off the end of the torch. And I read in the manual about needing a back feed capacitor I believe is what it was called.
Also would be trying to use this with a lincoln weldanpower 225
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 8:03 pm
by Poland308
Old miller gas units used a twist lock plug like that for push button start instead of scratch start. Guessing you have a version of that. The torch and cables should all be standard. You just might need a new switch to match your welder.
Edit the three threaded connections make me think it’s a water cooled torch.
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:18 am
by Arno
Poland308 wrote:
Edit the three threaded connections make me think it’s a water cooled torch.
Yup.. The Lincoln high-freq box also has a 'water inlet' label on it. So it looks like a watercooled torch.
Bye, Arno.
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 8:18 am
by Coldman
That's right. So what you have there is the water cooled torch and a high frequency box, condition unknown. If that's all you have, you're missing the power source ( welding machine) and the water cooler. Will cost enough money, if you can find them, to set yourself up with a modern rig...
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 6:32 pm
by BFid2708
Can the hi freq box be used without a water cooled torch. Also I have the power source a weldanpower 225 gas welder
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 7:40 pm
by Poland308
Your going to need to find the specs on your high freq box. It may require cooling from the water, or it may just be a internal solenoid that controls flow through the torch only. Either way you need more info about your high freq box. But note that a water cooled torch won’t last more than a few seconds without flow.
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 8:29 pm
by Coldman
Take the cover off and have a look inside. If the water in just goes to water out via a solenoid valve it's ok to use without water provided you use an an air cooled torch. If the water in also goes to the internals for cooling then you must have a water cooler connected.
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 6:44 am
by BillE.Dee
I'd imagine that there has to be more connections to that box. The water would need an in and out, as would the gas. Do a search for "lincoln high frequency module" ... you should find that system and how it's used.
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 10:33 am
by cwby
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:54 am
by BFid2708
Hey guys thanks for all the info. I have another question I have an air cooled weldcraft wp-17v torch I'm using until I figure out the hi freq box. My question is will the 17v torch accept the same parts as a regular 17 or does the V mean something special.
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:59 pm
by BillE.Dee
the torch should be the same as 17. The V just means it has the gas valve on it which allows it to be used on a lot of machines that don't have a electronic solenoid to control gas flow. And it should take all the parts as the straight 17 and some other torches .. I believe the 18 and 26 will also take the same parts, Jody has some great videos about the torches and also sells the parts in his store ... Weldmonger.
Re: looking for help figuring out a set up i inherited.
Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 4:57 pm
by TraditionalToolworks
Just to add to what BillE.Dee mentioned, AFAIK you should be able to use a valve torch on any machine, whether it has a pedal or not. Just open the valve so that it is always open and control the gas with the pedal. If you don't have a pedal, you need to use the valve to turn the gas flow on/off.