General welding questions that dont fit in TIG, MIG, Stick, or Certification etc.
Farmwelding
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Why do they use round tubing in auto sports and monster truck type stuff. Does it have more impact resistance than square tubing? Square is a hell of a lot easier to fab to me so round tubing must have a better quality to it. Maybe the way it interacts with the wheels and upper frame? I don't know.
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The round shape distributes stress in a more even manner. Due to this fact they can often engineer extra strength with less weight. I.E. smaller diameter tube with thinner walls.
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Circles, cylinders and spheres are really interesting shapes and objects for many reasons.
Geometrically it can be shown they have the greatest surface areas and volumes per unit radius and surface area which means less material for same area or volume.
Engineering wise they have consistent distance from centrum to extremity (because its round) making load calculations easier from forces coming from any direction around the diameter compared to a square shape which has varying distance from centrum to extremity.
A tumbling roll cage can be impacted from any direction and multiple directions and each has to be allowed for in strength calculations, much easier to do with a round section. Also I suspect the round tube frame will be lighter than a square tube frame with the same strength.
Geometrically it can be shown they have the greatest surface areas and volumes per unit radius and surface area which means less material for same area or volume.
Engineering wise they have consistent distance from centrum to extremity (because its round) making load calculations easier from forces coming from any direction around the diameter compared to a square shape which has varying distance from centrum to extremity.
A tumbling roll cage can be impacted from any direction and multiple directions and each has to be allowed for in strength calculations, much easier to do with a round section. Also I suspect the round tube frame will be lighter than a square tube frame with the same strength.
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Also round tubing is stronger with less stress raisers due to no corners.
Its a better weight to strength ratio.
Can be a bugger to weld if you're not good at constant radius welding. Like me.
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Its a better weight to strength ratio.
Can be a bugger to weld if you're not good at constant radius welding. Like me.
Cheers
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In addition to other comments, round tube can be bent any direction during the build process.
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Oscar wrote:What you talking about? Looks great!
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Dave J.
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~
Syncro 350
Invertec v250-s
Thermal Arc 161 and 300
MM210
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Tried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~
Syncro 350
Invertec v250-s
Thermal Arc 161 and 300
MM210
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Tried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
You put that P.O.S. on my truck, you'll be removing it and I'll be moving on.
1.5" OD 15 ga is what I use for stuff like that.At least get a cheapo sq. die tubing roller and follow the roof line a lil.
They work OK
1.5" OD 15 ga is what I use for stuff like that.At least get a cheapo sq. die tubing roller and follow the roof line a lil.
They work OK
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Bends are stronger (when properly executed) than welds. It looks like someone had a bunch of square pieces laying around and decided to make a welding project.Oscar wrote:What you talking about? Looks great!
Must be planning on a side roll. The lights face left and right. Not out the front. Toyota guys... They all seem confused in the trails... Maybe it's better they use square tube. God will sort them out...
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Bingo! Hawg huntin special!!!Poland308 wrote:You guys are looking at it wrong. It's a Texas truck. Those bars are gun rests and those are spot lights for hog hunting at night.
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